(joomla) Tags / Schlagwörter

[Nyx]

Warum wird eigentlich nicht die schöne neue (seit Jommla 3.1) Tagfunkton (Schlagwörter) von Joomla selbst verwendet?
Und nicht die eigene nicht wirklich komfortable Tagfunktion von Jdownloads?

Also die -> http://www.joomtemp.com/index.php/tutorials/joomla-3-0/35-how-to-use-the-new-tags-feature-in-joomla-3-0

Zb.: Das Downloadsystem "Digital Locker" verwendet dies erfolgreich. Siehe demo -> http://j-soho.com/demo/

So muss man wieder auf eine zusätzliche Dritt Komponente zurückgreifen und kann bei jedem Download ein extra Schritt tätigen.


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why you don't use the default jommla (3.1) Tag Feature for your new Jdownloads?

[Arno]

Hi,

Warum wird eigentlich nicht die schöne neue (seit Jommla 3.1) Tagfunkton (Schlagwörter) von Joomla selbst verwendet?

Kommt mit jD 3.3. Bedenke das die Komponente komplett neu geschrieben wurde und daher nicht alles bereits in der ersten Version möglich war.

[carin]

vor dem Posten die Suche benutzen ==> http://www.jdownloads.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=150

[Nyx]

Etwas sehr verspätet, Danke für die Info.

Hoffe auf eine baldige stabile Version 3.2 ;-)

[Nyx]

@Arno:

Falls noch nicht bekannt:
http://docs.joomla.org/J3.x:Using_Tags_in_an_Extension

Leider reichen meine php / jommla Kenntnisse nicht dafür aus dies in die aktuelle beta einzubauen 

[ColinM]

Hi
I have not used Joomla tags yet myself, so could you give me a couple of examples of where they would be of assistance in jDownloads.  This would help with the documentation when they are included later in the jD3.3 series.
Thanks
Colin

[Nyx]

hello,

The Tags function is a very important function in a larger download database.

Since JDownloads has a problem. All downloads are into fixed static categories.

Take for example a database of movies. You can take the films in main categories such as action, romance, documentary, etc. but ....

There is more you can search or look.
Then you need the tags. I assign each a movie / download database.

For example: If a film is ... Romantic, unhappy, funny, violence, scenes of love, instructive, for children, only for adults, etc.


Or a download platform with ebooks, there are eg. the categories as bellistrik or non-fiction or fiction, etc. But there it's more you can also search.
For example: If a book is ... romantically, historical novel, short story, drama, fantasy, adventure, politics, travel, eroticism, for childs, etc.

So for example i like ebooks with historical aspects,.. i click on the Tag "historical novel" and so i see alle ebooks with historical content.
Whatever the category in which they are located.


Or e.g: on the site -> http://www.lovelybooks.de/autor/Gillian-Flynn/Gone-Girl-Das-perfekte-Opfer-1054772466-w/
You see the ebook "gone girl" and on the right site (scroll) you see the clickable Tags of the book -> "thriller ehe gone girl mord psychothriller manipulation verschwinden usa spannung hochzeitstag entführung gillian flynn missouri hass ermittlung psycho familie krimi mordverdacht amazing amy" So i click on the Tag e.g . "usa" i will find this ebook and other "usa" Tag ebooks they are from USA.

......

By the way ... the jommla doc link ( http://docs.joomla.org/J3.x:Using_Tags_in_an_Extension ) ... quote: "Joomla's tagging system is used in all core content extensions and is designed to be be EASY to integrate into other extensions that use standard Joomla design patterns." so is it possible to bulid in the JDownloads beta 3.2 ?  Or it is not so EASY ?  

[ColinM]

Hi
Thank you for your explanation - I can see the power and usefulness of tags as giving a much free cross selection.  Can one 'cascade' tags in order to drill down? I think that might be feasible with the Similar Tags module which appears more dynamic than using one of the new menu types with multiple fixed tags.

I do not know how difficult it is to implement - but I am sure Arno will have no 'challenge' but from the look of it I believe it would need some concentrated time.  At the moment we really do need a stable version, and then some missing modules/plugins are desperately required to give at least the capabilities that exist now. Given the power and flexibility of tags I am sure it will then be high on Arno's implementation list.  I appreciate your desire but a balance has to be struck given our finite resources.....

Best wishes
Colin

[ColinM]

Hi
As a thought it would help if you could perhaps give some thoughts as to how you would like to see this in jDownloads.  My thoughts are as part of the Search facilities and with 'tag cloud' modules like the present ones but focussed on the jDownloads items.  Not sure about menu methods.  Obviously a field is needed when creating a download that allows tags to be specified.

Any comments, observations or similar appreciated.

Colin

[Nyx]

Hello,

I think (for me) it's enough a tag cloud without cascade.

For the Jdownloads 1.9.2 / joomla 1.5 Arno make a coparate with the People form www.solidsystem.it the Tag System "Custom Properties".
And write a additionally script with "Andrea Forghieri". (I add it).
" <author>Andrea Forghieri (cptags), Arno Betz (jdownloads), Quellenhof-Stiftung (contentelement for jdownload)</author>"

I wrote today also a topic on there forum -> http://solidsystem.it/forum/custom-properties-3-for-joomla-3x/1377-cp3-and-jdownloads-3212-beta.html#2005

May be it will work with a new additionally script?
Also the jdownloads_3.2.12_beta with the new CP 3 for Joomla 3.x.

The only Joomla 3.x Tag alterative (for external components)  i found is " TorTags 3" from Toxmix -> http://tormix.com/products/tortags.html
This should be work without a additionally script !?!

They wrote:
"One of the features that make it interesting is that not only can include tags in the content component (com_content) native Joomla, but virtually any component, whether JoomShopping, MarketPlace, JEvents, VirtueMart, K2, JoomGallery, Joombah jobs, RedShop, Phoca Gallery[categories] or other simply by adding the component from the backend using the fields editor. In addition, tag-labels can be added anywhere in the article, beginning, middle or end of the article."


But both tag systems are for Joomla 3.x not free, so I can't test it  

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[ColinM]

Thank you that is most helpful.  The sooner we can get to jD3.2 stable the sooner we get Tags!
Colin

[Nyx]

Good news from Andrea / cptags:

andrea_4g: Hi, will be running compatibility tests against the latest version of jDownloads and let you know our findings ASAP.
andrea_4g: Compatibility tests with the latest version of jDownloads for J3.x had a positive outcome.
We are adding the new content element connector to the upcoming new release of Custom Properties to be published in few days.

http://solidsystem.it/forum/custom-properties-3-for-joomla-3x/1377-cp3-and-jdownloads-3212-beta.html#2005

But Joomla 3 has been a good buildin Tags and Tags cloud function.
Let's see how long the development of jdownloads 3.2 final to 3.3 final will take.
For a short time .... CP 3 costs 39 ? ;-)

[ColinM]

Yes that is good - I will check with Arno
Colin

[Nyx]

FYI:

Custom Properties 3 for Joomla 3.x now supported jDownload (3.2.12 beta (+?))

http://www.solidsystem.it/supported-extensions.html

[ColinM]

Nyx
Thanks for update.  Think jD series is close to being stable!!
Colin